Vogue Williams has revealed she clashed with her husband Spencer Matthews over their family plans.
The couple, who already share three children Theodore, five, Gigi, three, baby Otto, 22 months, have differing views on whether they should have a fourth.
Vogue, 39, explained how Spencer, 36, would have another 'straight away,' but she is the one who has to 'carry a baby for nine months.'
Speaking in an interview with The Sun, the model admitted: 'I had a timer on myself thinking: "I’ll decide at the end of this summer," and now it’s the end of summer and I still really just don’t know.
'If I said: "Let’s go with it," Spencer would do it straight away, but I think of the logistics, whereas he doesn’t. And he doesn’t have to carry a baby for nine months, so it’s a bit more of a decision for me.'
Vogue Williams has revealed she clashed with her husband Spencer Matthews over their family plans
The couple, who already share three children Theodore, five, Gigi, three, baby Otto, 22 months, have differing views on whether they should have a fourth
The model joked: 'I’ll probably be still thinking about it when I’m 50! I don’t want to have a child when I’m 40, because I feel like I’m going to start getting tired. That’s when I want to be going into my granny era and chilling out!'
In a recent interview Spencer recalled how alcohol took over his life and threatened to end the couple's relationship before he made the sudden decision to go sober.
During his years as a city broker in London and through to his Made In Chelsea days, drinking became a cornerstone of the TV star's life.
But it was when he reached his late twenties and met and married his wife Vogue, that alcohol began to threaten his future plans and his desire to settle down.
Speaking on The Mail's Everything I Know About Me podcast, Spencer admitted of his past behaviour: 'There was a certainty that I would lose Vogue, if I carried on drinking the way I was drinking.'
He recalled how in the early months of their romance, after meeting on 2017 reality show The Jump, he and Vogue would go out partying together, admitting 'we had this highly social, quite boozy relationship.'
Alcohol even brought the couple, now parents of three, together as he admits he was perhaps his most dependent on booze around the time they met. 'I think anybody who was on The Jump will tell you that it was quite something,' he explained.
'Although I went sober when I made the finals for ten days before the finals, only went and won!'
Vogue, 39, explained how Spencer, 36, would have another 'straight away,' but she is the one who has to 'carry a baby for nine months'
'When I won I went on some like mental bender, lost everything. I was beginning to feel like I was a real mess, then. And that was a bit unusual for me.'
Spencer explained though that while Vogue would 'binge drink every few days and drink to get drunk' he would carry on 'and it was every day.'
'She won't mind me saying she's a bit of a binge drinker. She actually hates alcohol, she can't stand being hungover. She doesn't like the taste of booze, but she'll drink to get drunk. Back then she would drink to get drunk every few days. Now, it's once a month type of thing,' Spencer explained.
'On the days off, I would drink and she wouldn't. And then she would get back on the horse. And then when she stopped, I carried on and it was every day, and she would draw attention to it.'
Around this time, Vogue fell pregnant with their eldest son Theodore. 'My drinking was emphasised by the fact that she wasn't drinking,' Spencer said.
'There was a general level of disappointment in her about me. Which felt s**t, right, because I've always wanted people who are close to me to be proud of me,' he added.
Speaking in an interview with The Sun , the model admitted: 'I had a timer on myself thinking: "I’ll decide at the end of this summer,’ and now it’s the end of summer and I still don’t know'
Spencer's turning point came after one boozy night in 2017 after he drank most of a bottle of whiskey at the London home he shared with Vogue.
Getting into bed drunk with Vogue, who was pregnant, he remembers how he told her he was going to quit. 'She didn't really believe me, and neither did anybody else,' he admitted but 'I didn't drink for three and a half years, just stopped.'
Spencer went on to launch his low-alcohol drinks company The Clean Liquor Company in 2019.
He and Vogue are now also the proud parents of three children and the star has declared: 'What success really is, I think is the ability to exist and be happy, you know, with the people around you. And I know it sounds a bit lame, but that is the truth.'